Albino bear harvested in Pennsylvania

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In the top photo, Tom Wisniowski of Acme, left, sits next to a female albino black bear that he shot Monday, on the first day of Pennsylvania bear season. He shot the 47-pound albino bear in Centre County. Also pictured are Richard Marther, center, of Erie and Jeff Gowen of Evansburg, who harvested their own bears Monday.

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They're flippin' tiny! Who shoots such tiny bears then proudly has their photo taken with them?

Dont bears have to be a certain size to kill them??? These look awful small. I dont hunt, but i fish, and my fish must be bigger than these Bears to keep them!!!!!

Since when did it become legal to shoot puppies? What a frightening hunt that must have been.

As a fellow hunter I'm appalled that you and your buddies would even shoot bears of their size. Granted they are legal,but at what point does your common sense that over. The Pa Game Comm. classifys bear as "big game". Now really, do your bears look like "big game"?

My Lab weighed more than twice that. Being a hunter I would never shoot a bear that size. Cannot even call it a bear. They're only cubs.

I can't believe someone would shoot something so small. i've never shot a bear but would let them walk on by being so small so much for our future bear if people keep thaat up

I can't believe these people would be proud of shooting game that size. At that size and age, that bear, no matter how "rare and exotic" it might be is not old or big enough to be shot! Not to mention that its a trophy kill! Those guys need to seriously examine their conscious and why they would kill something that is defenseless and not for a utilitarian purpose - like eating.

Looks like they killed the cow and her three cubs...real tough guys. PA needs to change their laws..other states strictly regulate size. These guys arent hunters or sportsmen and obviously have no shame. Go back to pulling the wings off flys..boys.

While I am certainly not an animal activist, this picture saddens me to my very core. Unless you plan to eat them, you definitely should not have shot them! They're just babies. What big, tough men you are.

I love hunting, I would love to take a bear, yeah that's right a BEAR, not a cub. You have to be a cold hearted SOB to kill a cub let alone 3 cubs. We as Pennsylvanians need to do something about this, there needs to be a size requirement on bears!!

I would go as far as to say that I would let a mother bear walk if she had little ones with her. The real trophy is still out there!!!

Maybe my monitor is too dark, or the photo is poor, but I didn't see the forth bear right away.

An issue has been mentioned on another site: http://www.haloscan.com/comments/ydrcomments/7515328/?a=48876#83572

Basically another person made a comment saying that this is obviously a sow who was shot first and the 3 cubs were picked off when they refused to leave the side of their mother.

This is NOT hunting. There is no way that all 4 of those bears could have been a separate unrelated incident and hunt in itself. This is absolute crap.

If I was a PGC WCO I'd be looking a little harder at this group.

As a long time PA hunter I was sickened after seeing those three idiots posing with those cubs. What joy and appreciation you'll have in the years to come reflecting on those cubs you removed from the PA woods, yeah right! Hope you're proud, I sure would not be. I've circulated those pictures all around my office with my comments and received nothing but 100% positive comments back that those three are nothing but, well I can't type those words here!

Why couldn't you 'hunters' allow those CUBS to live until they were mature? I hope the PGC looks into this because I have to believe there is something wrong with this 'harvest'. I like to see a good SPORTING KILL as much as anyone, but this is looks like someone was shooting fish in a barrel.

i think everyones jelous congatulations hunters. although i would not have killed the albino. not even a large albino. and i have let a albino 9 point buck pass by me in rifle season 1996 2 times (same deer) so quit crying about the black bear cubs they are legal to kill and thats 2 less we have to worry about getting into our trash or hitting with our trucks. congrats on the harvest but next time let the white one go....

Go back to watching Sesame Street Grizz. You're obviously not old enough to be able to write in complete sentences, punctuate or spell correctly. Do mom and dad know you're using the computer?

I get squirrels lured in the trap bigger than those "bears".

I am extremely disappointed at the total disregard for life of an animal because some guy with a gun thinks he is a man if he shoots a bear. I am a hunter and I can not believe that these guys would shoot these baby bears. The Pennsylvania game commission needs to put some restrictions on bears and do an investigation into this slaughter, I mean hunt. I own dogs that are double the weight of the cub and looks like there are three cubs and a sow. I as a PA hunter will be writing a letter to the PGC to do an investigation and to move towards better bear management. I am convinced that most gun hunters in this state would still shoot a spike just to say they shot a buck, looks like all that these guys are worried about is bragging at the bar that they are big men and shot bears. Native Americans call white animals Spirit animals and I am sure that today every ones spirit is broken with this news.

I am 61 and have hunted in PA all of my life. I have never seen anything as disgusting as this and am ashamed of being called a "hunter" along with these butchers. I only hope these "boys" live long enough to regret their horrible actions! It sure provides tons of ammunition to the anti-hunting fokes. Please, PA Game Commission, do something to prevent this from happening again.

Harvested?! I hope that stupid MF is "harvested" by a
rabid mountain lion

As sickening as this killing of baby cub bears are I would like to know why people aren't this concerned about human babies that get killed everyday through abortion. That is even more sickening than this. There should be a law against killing animals that are just babies. And the Row v. Wade should be thrown out.

These guys are worthless. I'm disgusted with the game commission for even allowing this butchery.

I've been a hunter from birth, and never; read: N-E-V-E-R even thought about shooting a baby anything, not a groundhog or a deer, or whatever.
From the pictures, you all appear proud for some reason, although I can't fathom what. It can't be your skills, or ethics, or morality of hunting.
Maybe you were just hunting for suitable pocketbooks for little girls.... its what you got, what you shot, and there should be no pride associated with your actions.

Who ever told you that you are hunters ? Maybe the same misdirected adult that taught you these hunting ideas, not ethics or morals! Either there is a very misdirected adult (obviously as morally bankrupt as you are) who passed along their twised idea of hunting, or; this is your first time in the woods.

Are you proud ? Are you thrilled ? No low-life, uncaring, unfeeling, non-ethical, morons like you will ever hunt with, or near me and my crew. You wouldn't last 10 minutes in our crew. You'd be found out, ridiculed, and told to get your asses out of real hunters sight... NOW !

Hunting is a rich tradition, passed down with love and care to our younger generations.
Go back to shooting small domestic animals and get the hamsters & other trophies stuffed for your permanent memories and to proudly display... for the other local "kids" you hang with.

You should be too consumed with guilt to ever show these pictures or take credit for what you have done. Of course, assuming reponsability, for your irresponsibility, could well be your very FISRT step to becoming a man.

Killed any puppies lately ? Maybe a neighbors trophy housecat ?

This is an entirely new height of low.

You define everything that anyone ever thought of hunters that was horrible.

You all suck ! ! !

sorry cry babies killing bear cubs is legal in pa just think the bear rugs are much cheaper to have done when they are small and the meat tastes much better i never shot a bear cub but i killed many baby DEER yea thats right i killed bambi the meat is so tender and they are much easyer to git out of the woods so on monday when i shoot another baby deer i will take a moment to think about all you cry babies and laugh. By the congatulations to the cub killers keep your heads high and enjoy your success.im sure your bear rugs will look great..

Yes...it takes a big man to

shoot a 47lb baby bear

doesn't it! I wouldn't

brag if I were you! Big

men shoot baby bears, how

proud we all are! Maybe

you could become abortion

doctors too! Then you

could kill the unborn

legally. You three give

real hunters a bad name.

I am from Louisiana and live in Pa. now and I was under the impression that Louisiana only had rednecks . BOY , WAS I WRONG !! These guys look like bigshots with thier BIG kill !! What morons !!

This is crazy! You big game hunters obviously shot the mother and then the cubs. I've heard the cubs won't leave the mother and actually make crying sounds after the mother is dead.How can any hunter be proud of this, which you are to have your pictures displayed. You have added a huge black eye to hunters that actually take pride in only shooting big game.
You are pathetic!

After killing the mother these guys pprobably had little choice but to shoot these cubs. They mostlikely stayed with the mother after she had been shot. The three cubs probably would not have survived as orphaned yearlings any way. What these gentlemen did may not have been ethical but they probably had little choice. The poor judgement they showed in shooting a mother with cubs was their real mistake. These gentlemen appear to all be young and I am sure this experience will effect them in some way. Lets not crucify these guys they did not break the the law and we all have to live with things we have done.

Sad to see your proud faces beside cubs that are smaller than my dog. What would provoke such a senseless killing - machismo, selfishnes to name a few. I am sorry for what you boys will have to live with.

Grizz, #1 Cub Killer, you two are real mororns. Its because of idiots like you that give animal rights activists ammo. You are not real hunters, especially you #1 Idiot. With hunting must come responsibility, and respect for nature, not just a passion to kill, and increase your ego. I know that the average mature Black Bear in Pa. will only go about 200lbs. but to shoot a bear that weighs only 47lbs. is ridiculous. My hunting camp has shot sows before where the cubs have stuck around or only run up a tree, but no one has ever thought of taking one. At this point in the year they are capable of living on their own, so you are not "doing them a favor" by killing them. You are merely taking a once in a lifetime trophy from another hunter with better ethics. As far as #1 idiot and all the baby deer he has, and intends to kill, i bet youll be the first person complaining Mon. morning that there are no deer left. Just remember thats because of dufusses such as yourself!

Shame on you! People like you make all hunters look bad!

Hunting may have its place, but hunting and hunters creep me out. Guess these "bear hunters" are what "real men" are all about?

Great job, guys. Way to make us all look bad!!

I can't believe someone, who calls themself a hunter, would be able to shoot a poor little bear cub like that. Hunting is a sport and not just a shooting game. Next time you go hunting try to shoot something that is a challenge or better yet -- don't go hunting anymore.

i hope that these guys all become bear "sign" someday

I have taught my son and daughter and many other's sons and daughters, the ways of a hunter and a true sportsman. You guys are neither! It's pathetic that someone along the way never took the time to teach you ethics! So in essence, we as real hunters and sportsmen must take some of the blame here! 47 lb cubs!!! Unbelievable....and you take your pics with them on top of that. If you are 100th as ashamed of yourselves as I am of all of you,(and the other 2 idiots that posted above me....yeah you know who you are) you are just beginning to realize how the true sportsman worldwide feel about you!

This just makes me wanna puke! Ya'll ought to be put in jail instead of posing with those little teddy bears you shot. Doesn't PA have size restrictions on bears?? What's next spotted fawn season??

You guys are obviously lost!! May God have mercy on your pitiful souls for being ignorant, and such a careless waste of His resources! You must have missed the ethics class, def missed the morals class, and including the two morons above, have NO CLASS!!

I hope you great hunters feel proud of yourselves. I'm not anti-hunter, but this is very sad.

What an embarrassing group of little sissies. I hunt that area. You better pray I don't see you around there.

Guys like you are why I gave up hunting!

You have got to be kidding me! what a disgrace these punks are! I am an avid hunter and never have or plan to kill cubs...CUBS!!!! this has redneck written all over it. makes you wonder what other brilliant moves this gang have made. I have dogs bigger than those bears. the PGC needs to take a closer look at this and change the law! If one of those punks were my son I'd punch him in the nose! there is just no sense in the killing of these cubs...none! these guys are not hunters they are idiots! I can only imagine that alcohol had to be involved. wow!

You piece of shit scumbags.

Hope your proud.

I have shot many huge buck including 160 plus b&c bucks the last two years in a row. My goal now is to harvest an adult bear. I have vowed to myself I will not shoot a mother with cubs. The problem with shooting a mother that has cubs is after the mother is shot, the cubs either climb a tree nearby or they huddle with the dead sow. This is a real shame. I sure would not want to be known for killing a sow and all three of her cubs and one was an albino which makes it even more terrible. I will however get my trophy bear one day even if I must let 10 sows with cubs walk by. Looking forward to 2008.

What a bunch of pussies! You boys give hunters a bad name.

I bet you guys made your father proud.

Dude I guess the inbreading is still going on strong in PA. Who would even want to say they sired these idiots. What a bunch of pathetic poor-excuses for ment they are. How did these "BOYS" start out hunting? Shooting kittens tied to a tree? Someone take away their licenses until they at least graduate 6th grade. DANG! What morons.

Wow, what more can be said that hasn't? I think Bruce and Leatherneck both put it best. No, these are not men. No they are not hunters. And I doubt they feel bad about what they did. They will be justifying it to themselves for years with excuses like, "Hey, it was legal." But, as can be seen by the amount of posts here, we all know these guys for what they truly are: spineless, dimwitted, irresponsible, redneck jackasses. Please, somebody take away their ability to hunt. I doubt that just revoking their licences will do it. They probably have no problem with poaching, either.

I am a passionate hunter who enjoys every type of hunting including bear. But these three studid a$$ holes do not understand the true meaning of the hunt. They were hunting purely for bragging rights and nothing more. These guys posted the same pic on huntingpa.com The response from bear hunters in pa was so harsh towards these "hunters" that they had to remove the post and have asked the site users not to discuss it any longer.

You guys are a bunch of pansys. You hunters are the reason non hunters think of us hunters as scum which you are. Bottom feeding scum. I hope you are happ with your 15 minutes of fame for shooting a cub albino or not that bear is almost the same weight as my beagle yes beagle. You guys are freakin morons.

Post these poor examples of sportsmen on the "Hunters Wall of Shame"

Grizz & #1 Cub Killer to attack your ignorance would be worthless.....it's obviously been inherited. Grizz is happy that he won't hit the bear with his truck or get into his garbage. Now there folks is the views of a highly educated hunter........NOT! Then we have #1 Cub Killer..now here is a guy that must of had or has some "short comings" in life. You know....the kid that was last in everything he did and always picked on. So now as a "adult" he needs to go around shooting anything and everything to make himself feel good. Your comments about the killing baby deer must really make you feel like a man... You really aren't to bright are you...making comments about shooting baby deer on a public sight..maybe the PGC needs to take a look at it. It's guys like you that make a bad name for educated and honest hunters.

I can't add to the list of names these guys have been called; but I'm also outraged, disgusted and saddened. Saddened for the bears and by the fact that these guys just don't get it. They don't get what hunting is about enough to respect the animals, the sport; or those of us who do get it. All they did is put another nail in the coffin of a sport we love and respect, not to mention the right to keep and bear arms. I just hope the outrage expressed in the posts I've read here results in true hunters making sure that our state reps and the PGC gets the message that our sport (and their jobs) depends on some thing being done to stop this kind of crap.

I am an avid bear hunter I have harvested 7 bears in PA.I was not disgusted by the shooting of such small bears.I was disgusted to the point of being sick just knowing how these bears were shot.It is impossible for 4 hunters to go hunting and all harvest a bear.I hope somebody admits that when they shot the adult female that the cubs went up a tree. I would probaly say the radios were busy as the hunter called all his friends to come to the tree with the three cubs in them. Is this a great day I say no.The Game Commision should have demanded to see the kill site. Not that it would have been illegal to shoot a cub in a tree but we could have known just how blood thirsty these hunters were. I am sorry to claim myself as a bear hunter we have all been tarnished by the ignorance of these so called hunters. Do not come back to our county and brag about your so called great kill we do not wish to hear it.,

Every night when you lay down to go to sleep and it is reallyu quiet and dark you will remember the day of the massacre. I live to hunt this was not hunting it was a massacre. The cubs were scared as their mother layed dying as you men I mean you losers laughed and emptied your guns on the cubs. I will not see what you saw that day when I close my eyes but you will. You will live with the death bawls of the cubs the blood spilt all over the woods. I am a hunter you are scum.

that little albino sucker would be mounted and resting comfortably in my living room if i had the chance. and hey mavis im not a doctor but if i could help abort little demacrats in any way, let me know id be glad to help out!!!!!!!

Vince.....just another so called hunter that gives the rest of us a bad name. Yes Vince, your school of thinking is way off in fact I'm not sure I'd go as far as calling it thinking. Had it been a 100lb plus bear no problem, but it wasn't. I think bear killer put it best!! All of the educated and honest hunters are looking really bad to the community and your thought process and comments didn't help.

look at these articles.
makes hunters looks stupid.
I am a novice and am getting turned off already.
sad sad sad

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/20/ap/strange/main3528532.shtml?source=RSS&attr=_3528532


real smart guys

Those of you trying to justify the massacre of this bear family are not simply poor excuses for hunters...you are poor excuses for human beings. Were you trying to shoot a matching set of toilet seat covers? There is so much misery, pain, and suffering in this world, how can you justify killing such a rare and beautiful gift? It is people like you, cub-killers, that are the epitomy of the decline of our society. You may have absolutely no sense of guilt over what you have done now...but just wait. When you are 80 years old, sitting in your rocking chair, I hope you remember how your actions created so much heartbreak and disgust. My daughter cried when she saw your "trophy" photo. I had to try to explain to her why you did what you did. Your actions broke a lot of hearts...and we are a family of hunters. I hope some day, you find a soul. For now, rest easy knowing you selfishly took away from all of us a rare and beautiful gift...not just the albino cub, but an entire family that may have also had the potential to produce more albino cubs in the future. Hang your heads in shame, children.

By the way...Vince and #1 Cub Killer...your mother's should have aborted YOU. Those bear were far more valuable to society than your arrogant asses are. You sound like a bunch of pot-smoking, welfare sucking, trailer-park trash. Your mamas certainly can't be proud of their little boys. I would love to feed YOUR flesh to my dog. But then, I wouldn't want to make my dog sick! Take a hint, you wastes of skin...drop off the face of the earth. You won't be missed. What goes around, comes around. I hope one day you get your jewels nibbled off by a monsterous albino bear. We would simply applaud the bear, and hand him some ketchup to go with that.

Wait a minute.These guys did nothing illegal.The laws have been on the books for a long time about this.I guarantee this is not the first time this has happened.As long as they did not break any kind of game laws than nothing should be said.The ammo for the anti's is when we as hunters fight between ourselves.Just because you wouldn't do it doesn't mean someone else has to have the same views.As long as it was done legally it is OK with me and it should be with all of you.

Just because something is legal, DOES NOT MEAN IT IS MORAL!! Take a look at slavery and segregation. How many years was THAT legal??? Was it "right" simply because it was legal? I don't think so...I don't know how anyone can justify killing babies of any kind. Give them a chance to live for God's sake! Wouldn't you have liked that albino cub...(or maybe one of it's siblings carrying the gene) to survive and possibly pass their unique traits on to the next generation? Now the whole family is wiped out! You please explain the morality in that...but then, you're probably too busy trying to figure out that legality vs. morality concept yet...

Jesus ****'n christ...how much time do you people spend looking for albino bear that you're so upset over this? Obviously, everyone who is posting made pilgrimiges to the area where it was shot to pay homage to the fallen bear. And obviously, in doing this, you've also made donations to societies and government agencies that support the research and sustainability of the black bear,namely your local state wildlife management division.
Did everyone here know it even existed to begin with? Guessing not. So, someone shot a bear that nobody knew was there to begin with, but now all of a sudden, you feel robbed. Awwwwww....you poor, poor folks. If only we could have saved it from the harsh wooded environment and put it behind a safe glass wall where you could pay $15 to see it and have your kids feed it food pellets dispensed from a gumball machine...all so the bear wouldn't get shot during BEAR season.
And obviously, from the posts, nobody knew it was there until it was dead, but by some twist of opinion, someone's "figured out" how it was shot. Obviously, they weren't there because they would have rescued the disney fantasy from it's demise, but I'm guessing this whole scenario in fact is NOT what happened because in Pennsylvania they hunt by driving. Bears scatter during drives. It's really not the whole "bambi's mom got shot" disney movie climactic ending scenario.
And for the "hunters" on here saying their part...I do not feel you're really hunters, but rather posing as such just to make some ripples in the water. If you are real hunters, well, in your assumptions, words and support of those who do not understand the way, you are more dangerous than any anti.

You are obviously an anti and if not you sure sound like one.You compare this to slavery and segregation WOW! If you must know albinism is a poor genetic trait.As for my morals well I'm for abortion,the death penalty,slavery sounds good too.By the way you sound really angry I think you may have some issues.Take some prozac and cheer up.

HA HA HA... I love this. All of you people hating these young people for killing bears. Wishing death upon them. WOW.
Its just a couple of bears. You act like they've done something wrong(perfectly legal) God put those delicious animals on this earth to kill and eat. (And make sweet looking rugs)

I am actually good friends with one of "The Killers", thats the only reason i heard about this message board. And we had some good laughs about some of these posts.... Thanks for the Good Times.

Hate them if you want, those bears are still dead :)

You sad, sad, uneducated person, too dull to interpret simple English. I am not comparing the killing of these bear to slavery, rather comparing the principal of legality versus morality. I shall re-state in more simplistic terms for you...JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS LEGAL DOES NOT MEAN IT IS MORALLY CORRECT. I am not so ignorant that I do not realize albinoism is a genetic weakness. This is a given fact of nature. Does this mean that we as human have a duty to eliminate these "inferior" animals? Nature has been taking care of herself for millenia without our help...why not let nature take her course? As for your stance on slavery, you have just revealed to the thousands who visit this website your complete lack of humanity. Do you think anyone is going to take a d*** thing you say seriously after that comment? I'm finished posting, as it has become clearly evident to me the caliber of people I am dealing with. As for WV Hunter, you are correct...I can't miss what I never saw. Too bad I wasn't given the chance. And please, for all who try to read your future posts, please learn at least SOME functional English.

To all those of you who say these kill is fine,I just have one thing to say.I hope that when you realize your mistake, it isn't too late.I have known about albinism for a long time,, and even if its a defect, it doesn;t mean the animal can't live.I've seen tons of grown albino animals in the wild adn its sad this cub won't make it.I am not an anti-hunter, I believe if you hunt to eat it is fine, but jerks who hunt for trophecies need to get a life.

An animal is just like we are, in that they only get one life, too!! They are NOT just a "couple of bears." They were living creatures that were just fine until some under- compensated men came along to overcompensate for what they don't have. Being that we are the more intelligent species, one would think that you would take that knowledge and use it wisely; not for selfish purposes such as showing off what wonderful animals you can murder. Any person that can take a life of any kind, definitely has a few screws loose. Killing things does not make you manly. What it does do, is show that maybe you aren't as intelligent as you should be. If sin had not entered into this world through Adam and Eve, do you know that there would be no killing of animals at all? That came from our loving Creator, not me. Having enlightened you with this information, then you now know that it is the sinful carnal nature that you are giving in to, that makes your desire to take lives so strong. The sinful, carnal nature is a weakness. You MUST BE EXTREMELY WEAK TO KILL AN INNOCENT, LIVING THING. How easy is it for you to murder another human being? One that would surely deserve it, long before any animal EVER would.

Layla,

My name is John Knouse, and I am the reporter who was there the day that these gentlemen if you would call them that brought these bears into the check station. I agree with you in some ways, but also disagree on some points. The way you phrased things in your letter was not being very Christ-like or Godly either, but give me a chance to introduce a few ideas to you. There should in fact be, and in some cases hunting is needed to preserve human life. Sometimes outside of the cities where food banks are not common and there is not a soup kitchen around the corner, poor families feed themselves with their harvests. The day I wrote that article was because of occupation not belief, and because the albino bear was such a rare thing, as a reporter I felt it necessary to publicize. Now in the united states burger joints and different fast foods are more available and hunting has taken a dive as far as survival needs, but you need to understand that in some cases like a mentioned above it is truly a survival tactic. I myself have hunted and harvested animals, simply for the purpose of donating to the local food bank that most often has shortages. So please be kind to all, even when they make mistakes, and remember you set an example for others with kind words.
Sincerely, John Knouse
God's Peace

how can you kill one that smalli mean im a hunter to i would think about it but never do it just plain dumb i hope you got a fine or something that is way to small dumb ass

how can you kill one that smalli mean im a hunter to i would think about it but never do it just plain dumb i hope you got a fine or something that is way to small dumb ass

Remember that the next time you accidentally shoot a button buck, a jake turkey a small yearling rabbit, whatever it is that you hunt, it is bound to happen. Different hunters have different morals, but the one thing you do not want to do as someone mentioned above, is to not fight amongst your fellow hunters, because you are then playing into the hands of the anti-hunting groups.

Im a NY hunter and do admit sometimes mistakes happen. but killing three cubs??? whatever happened to game managment. Even if they did shoot the mother first and the cubs have a small chance at survival atleast they have a chance. i cant believe this bull. and trying to relate jake turkeys and rabbits to this discussion is totally retarded. mistakes happen. this wasnt a mistake!!!!

I actually doubt this is an albino!!!the one picture you can clearly see dark eyes. so its probably a cinnamon phase bear which is more likely because i have some friends from PA that have harvested a few

I was there and saw that bear, and it was indeed an albino, and it's eyes were not pink anymore because of it being dead, but they clearly had lack of pigment in it's eyes and skin. everyone knows everything though, even without being there.

There ya go right there, a NY hunter. That explains it all. I've been hunting in NY and anything there is half assed and retarded. These guys did what they did people now let it alone.

You so called hunters who killed these little bears need to be castrated so you don't reproduce more like yourselves..

i am not that old and have only been hunting a couple of times and it is quite the sport but killing a cub is just not write these crapheads need to get a life and maybe kill something bigger than my dog.

Where is your moral? Killing baby bears is wrong, but what gives you the right to kill grown up bears, really? Are you some kind of gods who can decide if an animal can live or not? Did you HAVE TO kill them, did they attack you? If not, you should have no right to kill another animal, you are one to.
It's so sad to see those things happen.

You guys are arseholes, i live in Australia and i wouldn't dream of killing something so soft and innocent. Bears are such lovely animals and do not deserve to be slaughtered by and ugly bunch of fuckers like yourselves, especially when their so young! if you want to do something productive which your free time go and shoot at each other in those woods and hopefully you'll wipe yourselves all out in the process. If only i could teach a couple of bears to shoot at your kids =)

"Oh look! A rare albino bear cub! Lets murder it." What a bunch of morons.

you dont need anymore negitave comments im sure there starting to get what they did is wrong this post spot has been going since last year and ppl from allover the state the country and the world (uk included ^_^) have all said its wrong from what iv read everyones saying someone should do something and considering the mount of ppl who have wrote something on here i think we could probibly get something done there is obviously some law that neds to be thaught about and rewrote because im not against a good SPORTING KILL but this isnt sporting at all, look it up in a dictionary if ur stil not sure but of killing these babies gave you a ''thrill'' then you need help

im not even against hunting to prevent incodents but you cant say every bear will be bad dont judge to majority because or the minority if we as human beings diddnt leave bins unattended and food everywhere they probibly wouldnt feel a need to come so close to us yes fill your food storage yes kill for the 'better' of mankind but kill only when necissary kill the minority

Yall are a bunch of stupid morons to kill an albino bear!

I hope you all die slowly from unsavory, seeping diseases- and then go on to the afterlife for more of the same.

Wow, you guys are total losers! Go out and shoot some baby bears, are fn' kidding?! You all have big balls for sure.. Men... I don't think so.

how cruel.......what kind of person murders these beautiful animals,they're little lives had just begun. i think it's shameful and very sad. there's always KARMA....
i am more proud to say that in my lifetime i have NEVER harmed a human nor a defenseless animal. how can you pose for a picture with their dead little bodies? may they haunt you for the rest of your life.

1 cub killer = 1 gay cub killer.
shot yourself...

You must be really proud of yourselves...killing helpless babies. How can you kill an albino most of all? No, maybe they aren't as rare as some think, but still? And why? Are you starving? Going to give the meat to someone who needs it, or did you just want a rug for your "man room". What, did the babies scare you, or is your excuse that the mom tried to kill you for murdering her babies? I'de like to see what you would do alone and defenseless in the forest.

listen hear you co#k suckin mother#uckers.regardless of your laws or morality all three of you are #uckin losers and you make me sick.your co#ks must certainly be smaller than the bullet you should have use up your fag-ot rectum.fu#kin ba$tards.

Karma's a bitch. And one day you guys will get yours. You guys are disgusting.

Fucking white trash. Its bad enough that humans prey on these beautiful animals, but you actually managed to kill a rare albino, and a fucking cub to boot! Eat shit and die mother fuckers.

As quite a few have pointed out, they are barely even bears, they are cubs... and shooting them like that is uncalled for and cruel. If you want to be proud, then why don't you make it actually fair for them, and take on the bear only when necessary with only your owm bare hands... because when you stand far away and shoot at them like that, i wouldn't call that remotly brave or something to be proud of. I'm sorry, but it has trully saddened me that people would do this with no remorse.

what these men did was not unethical. im a avid hunter, and when you see a sow in the wild, you dont always see her young cubs. most PA bear inhabitants are VERY thick brush, and PA bear are usually hunted in drives, therefore when you see a bear coming thru the brush at you a few yards away, you shoot! in this circumstance it is unfortunate the bear happened to be a sow with cubs, but once she was shot, the most humane thing to do is also shoot the cubs, or they will just die due to starvation or predators. also, to all you ppl out there who say its not right to kill and eat living things, im a biologist, and last time i checked, plants that you vegitarians eat are also living. us hunters not only keep the population of wildlife in check to prevent diseases and starvation within the animal communities, but our hunting licenses provide the funds to help keep forests from being destroyed so our wonderful wildlife will be around and healthy for several generations. your welcome, and good luck to all hunters this year!

i think this is disgusting, killing bears should not be legal anywhere under any circumstances!

what the heck is wrong with you idiot redneck men you killed these innocent cubs and besides you cant get anything with these cubs i would of just left them the way they were.
Imagine it what if you were small defenseless cub who didnt know anything about the "hunting game seasons" and you got shot, then you look down and see your body not moving a bit and see these idoiot hunters taking pictures and smiling at your dead body and sending to posts.i hope your happy with that small game you have but think about it...

Im am a 14 year old Hunter in the state of Pennsylvania and I agree with everyone that is disgusted at this photograph. Also for those of you who say Pennsylvania should create a bear weight restriction it is physically impossible. It would be extremely hard to identify a bear running through the buck lareals or even just standing in the opening just 50 yards away. I am not sayin that you cannot identify a cub from a mature Pa black bear but i am saying that identifing the weight of a bear is out of the question. So this is a two sided story. On the otherhand I'd like to congratulate the hunter who harvested the mature sow. Also I think the PGC should look into this harvest. I dont think all four bear would be shot in the same exact place. Well congrats again on the nice MATURE bear harvest. For you other hunters, next time let them bear walk, even i no that.

Im am a 14 year old Hunter in the state of Pennsylvania and I agree with everyone that is disgusted at this photograph. Also for those of you who say Pennsylvania should create a bear weight restriction it is physically impossible. It would be extremely hard to identify a bear running through the buck lareals or even just standing in the opening just 50 yards away. I am not sayin that you cannot identify a cub from a mature Pa black bear but i am saying that identifing the weight of a bear is out of the question. So this is a two sided story. On the otherhand I'd like to congratulate the hunter who harvested the mature sow. Also I think the PGC should look into this harvest. I dont think all four bear would be shot in the same exact place. Well congrats again on the nice MATURE bear harvest. For you other hunters, next time let them bear walk, even i no that.

Im am a 14 year old Hunter in the state of Pennsylvania and I agree with everyone that is disgusted at this photograph. Also for those of you who say Pennsylvania should create a bear weight restriction it is physically impossible. It would be extremely hard to identify a bear running through the buck lareals or even just standing in the opening just 50 yards away. I am not sayin that you cannot identify a cub from a mature Pa black bear but i am saying that identifing the weight of a bear is out of the question. So this is a two sided story. On the otherhand I'd like to congratulate the hunter who harvested the mature sow. Also I think the PGC should look into this harvest. I dont think all four bear would be shot in the same exact place. Well congrats again on the nice MATURE bear harvest. For you other hunters, next time let them bear walk, even i no that.

the mom is in the back the cubs wouldent leave her side so they had to kill them

First of all, im sick of these tree huggin losers saying that its wrong to kill animals all together. killing animals was a big part of what helped people survive a long time ago. But yea this was deffinetaly wrong what these guys did.

WTF!!
thats bang out of order! bet they havent done nythng too yho!
thats wrong should be band all over the world!

Sick cowards. Killing animals for sport is bad enough - but at least have the balls to stalk a full-grown bear.

These people are sicko's, they really should ban hunting.

u pieces of elephant crap deserve to be shot. Heartless mofos killing babies and acting proud. MONSTERS may u losers have a life full of suffering and die miserable horrible deaths. May your souls forever be tortured in the great beyond. I curse you and all your trailer trash descendants for the rest of time.

What's next on your list to murder? An entire orphanage of children? Your reasoning and excuses for killing poor babies is that the mother was murdered by you scumbags? That is serial killer reasoning. Go rot under a rock and do the world a big favor and rid yourselves from existence.

why are they even smiling! You should be ashamed of yourself, not for just shooting bears, not for just shooting albino bears but for shooting babies aswell! What makes you think you have the right! Bear shooting and hunting just for the thrill and fun of it should be banned, its in-humaine and just plain cruel!
Im not normally violent but you three deserved to be shot. It so sad, baby bears aswell. It just shows that there are such people out there, not even people just pure low life scum! Sick!

why are they even smiling! You should be ashamed of yourself, not for just shooting bears, not for just shooting albino bears but for shooting babies aswell! What makes you think you have the right! Bear shooting and hunting just for the thrill and fun of it should be banned, its in-humaine and just plain cruel!
Im not normally violent but you three deserved to be shot. It so sad, baby bears aswell. It just shows that there are such people out there, not even people just pure low life scum! Sick!

T that comment is out of line and flat out rediculous

Are you sure that your bears aren't cubs? cause they are the smallest bear i've ever seen, and my dads cut turds bigger than those bears, i wouldnt post pictures of cubs u shot on the internet, i would be so embarrassed. those arent even bears, so yeah w/e lol u guys suck at hunting =] bye byez

What joy and acheivement do you guys get out of killing these bears which look like cubs. Bears are big game and these bear do not look like big game.

Wow, its a good thing nobody cares about all these opinions, and you've given us every reason not to by the way. Let me explain...
Typing away on your computers, tucked nicely into your cramped apartments or house on a 1/3acre lots with a morgage you can barely afford, when you write these posts, they mean absolutely nothing.
You see, the problem lies with you people. You're only running your mouth (or fingers for that matter). This bear was shot well over a year ago and since then...14months to present time, here you are still thinking we hunters are actually weighing your opinions and factoring them into our decisions in the woods. Fact being, we honestly are not. Seriously, I think i hunted harder this year to spite your whimpers from the cheap seats. The 2008 bear season in PA was the third best harvest on record and it went off without issue. No doubt, cubs were killed along with some very nice sized bear, and every one who had the opportunity to enjoy the season hopefully did so. All the while, you people did nothing, and for the most part you never will, save for hiding behind your computers.
I know that my state wildlife agency that governs my seasons and bag limits is completely funded by the dollars of hunter's license sales, with additional proceeds granted through taxes collected on outdoor merchandise by the Pittman-Robertson Act. I'm overjoyed I do not have to rely on you to do anything to manage wildlife in my state because, and I consider this fact, you are both unbecoming and lazy. Much like the saddened course humanity has taken, this topic is merely a medium for uneducated people to voice their mindless drivel into an issue they have absolutely NO stake in. What the hell difference does it make someone shot an albino to you? You're still probably defaulting on your mortgage, or your parents will probably still pay your student loans and your cell phone bill even though there was an albino bear shot last year.
So, if it makes you feel better, swing away I guess, but we know you're going to whiff because you don't even have a bat in your hands. It falls in line with the arguement of "if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, does it really make a sound?"...well people, the only ones around are you, and to us, hell, we don't hear a thing.
Happy typing kids.

Uh.. your on a computer too dumby. Are you doing anything about it yourslf Mr.Higher then everybody else. I myslf have sent many leters to the PGC. Iadmit thats not alot but atleast its something. Unlike you who are doing what? Ridiculing the very people who care enough to post a all. Takethat Mr.Sitting behind my desk and eating a single bean for dinner. You Jerk.

Uh.. your on a computer too dumby. Are you doing anything about it yourslf Mr.Higher then everybody else. I myslf have sent many leters to the PGC. I admit thats not alot but atleast its something. Unlike you who are doing what? Ridiculing the very people who care enough to post at all. Take that Mr.Sitting behind my desk and eating a single bean for dinner. You Jerk.

your behind your computer typing too moron.
Jeez what a jerk.

This is still being discussed because of its appalling nature. I am pro-hunting, but obviously there needs to be tighter regulations on the size/age of animals taken as evidenced by these "hunters" and their sorely lacking decision making skills.

It's nitwits like the trio pictured here that give all of us who have hunted responsibly a bad name.

Frankly, I've never understood why anyone would kill an animal unless they planned on eating it. And I definitely never understood standing over its dead carcass with a big smile on my face posing for a picture. Especially in this case. The equivalent of posing over the body of a dog you hit with a car.

hey this is for the people who killed these poor little bears. You guys seem so happy! Well you should be at the bears place. what did they do to you . We are the ones invading there personal space. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. I am a 19 year old girl traumatized by this image. You should be prosecuted and thrown in jail. anyways i find you guys revolting.
thank you for reading

Not only are they incredibly small, but an albino bear? Really? You have to shoot something so small and so rare just to get your name in the paper? That's pathetic and low. You have no morals. The most you care about is "Hey guys, I shot an albino bear". Yeah, a bear that probably weighs have as much as my malamute. And the other bears you shot? You can't even call yourself a hunter, that's not hunting. What you do is no different than stepping on ants.

fuck you what they do to disive that would you like to get killed i have a few word that i should say your evil people i hate your ways but becuase i am a christen i will forgive this evil deed u do know now you r muders and the person that wrote befor me is write you are a low life asshole and you will get whats coming

WTF? These dudes are messed up! Leave it to a pennsylvanian though!

you are going to go to hell for killing that albino cub...Albino animals are beloved by god...mother nature, the universe/what ever you want to call the creator

Simmer down na. Its only a bear. Ya its kinda small but writing comments won't bring the bears back. Who cares you don't even know these bears...or do u? Im sure when our ancestors went hunting they killed some juvenille animals too.

lol you guys are funny. you are all sitting in your computer chairs all fat getting mad at the cute dead bears lol get over it, its an animal, deep down you know you don't care, what you really care about is your fast paced, get it now lifestyle. f ing old people screw stuff up they shouldnt be allowed on the internet damn 30 year olds. Chill out people.

you guys need to shout up he is not going eto go to hell for shooting it is a way of life and if i was in that perdiciment i would do the same f ing thing it freaking and if you got a problem with hunting send me an email i will set you stright.

That's not an albino you idiots! It's a rare white/blonde black bear. It takes two parents each with the recessive gene to create that bear. She is called a Spirit Bear. If you are real hunters you would have known that! And if you didn't know that prior, you would have told Game and Fish in your area about her BEFORE you killed her. I live with a hunter and I am not against hunting. I am against ingnorance and this was plainly nohting more than that. Now an innocent cub lost her life becauase she was "rare and exotic". I'm disgusted. Thoroughly disgusted.

those guys are nuts.... go back home and dont bother buying a bear licence this year. and any true sportsman would have let that bear go.... so learn to be a sportsman. also this is to you PGC learn to manage game in this state cause all this state is anymore is a bear and turkey state with no deer. so learn to do something.And make a size limit for bears while you are at it.

these guys should just be flat out ashamed of themselves. Did the mom bear do anything when these asses shot their cubs? Hunters like this that just take whatever crosses their path disgust me like no other. Its people like this that make people dislike hunters, and as a hunter it makes me embarrassed to be one.

WOW, I can't get over how sad this is. To the idiot that is friends with these pathetic excuses for "hunters" you're heartless. Those are BABIES, FUCKING BABIES. You ball-less pigs; posing there next to this massacre as if you should be proud, go hide your heads in shame and learn a lesson from mother nature little spineless boys, you make me sick. I wish a bear would hunt you down and then maul your children while they're scurrying around your dead body all scared and confused. That's fucked up, I hate hunting unless you need to eat the animals or it's necessary to keep the population down, guns are hardly "Fair game" in my opinion, why don't you put down your guns and give that bear a fighting chance? Because he'd kill your weak little ass, that's why. You hide behind your big bad guns and think you should be proud...Also, albinism is BEAUTIFUL in my opinion and it's so rare, it's a sick thing to kill such a beautiful animal for no purpose other than to walk all over the skin of it's dead body, how degrading for such a majestic creature. A 47 pound bear and you're proud?! Stupidity is rampant in this country and yet it still surprises me how stupid some people really are. Fucking Poachers, I hope someone reported your asses and took away your hunting licenses.

PS: To all of those people saying calm down, it doesn't matter, Oh you know you don't really care, you don't know these cubs or what the fuck ever you want to tell me what I know and feel. It DOES matter and I wouldn't have written a comment about it if I didn't care. I usually never post comments on pages like this, but I felt compelled to express my disgust as did a lot of other people. So don't tell me to calm down because yes, posting this comment will not bring those beautiful babies back to life, but it just may stop it from happening again. If enough people post about it or say something, then that might bring attention to the problem and maybe someone of power somewhere or somebody who can do something about it will see it and take the necessary measures to prevent it from happening again and sure my ancestors may have killed a few juveniles in their day, but my ancestors also didn't have a grocery store at every corner, it is no excuse they are sick and wrong. They didn't hunt these babies to eat them, they hunted them to compensate for their small dicks and even smaller consciences. So don't tell me to calm down and go back to my "busy instant gratification life..." I took the time out of my busy life to write this and so did a lot of other people because this matters and I will help bring light to this problem by posting my opinions about it, if you don't like it. Go screw yourself because I care more about those baby bears, who are probably now being trampled over by some redneck boots and decaying than you. Also PA get with it and make a weight and size limit to your hunting if you haven't already because this is just sickening.

u f**king evil hunters i hope u die

these guys must have pretty small dicks to have to shoot puppy sized bears to make themselves feel good.

i hate bears kill them all.

Its not an albino bear its a blonde bear or something, its illegal to shoot albinos. He probably shot the mom and the cubs wouldn't leave so he kicked their ass. Id do the same thing id love to punch a bear in the face, but i digress. When i deer hunt i just shoot all the 6month fawns because they taste great and are a lot easier to get out of the woods by yourself. Oh and the look on the momma deer face.....PRICELESS.

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